8 Against Prop 8

Scott Harris's picture
Writer and Political Commentator

In March 2000, Californians overwhelmingly voted in favor of Proposition 22—the California Defense of Marriage Act—which in its simplest terms, defined marriage as exclusively between a man and a woman.

In May of this year, the California Supreme Court, by a 4-3 vote, overturned the initiative, ruling that same-sex marriage was guaranteed by the state Constitution as a “fundamental right.” Chief Justice Ronald George wrote in his majority opinion, “Our state now recognizes that an individual’s capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual’s sexual orientation.”

The predictable reaction to the ruling is the most controversial initiative on November’s ballot: Proposition 8. The initiative would amend the state Constitution and overturn the California Supreme Court decision. The entire text of Proposition 8 is short, simple and to the point: “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid and recognized in California.”

Here are eight reasons why we should defeat Proposition 8 this November.

1. Proponents of Prop 8 argue that it reflects the “people’s will,” as evidenced by Prop 22. As public opinion polls show that support to allow same-sex marriages is growing rapidly, will those who are crying “majority rules” quietly step aside if Prop 8 fails?

2. Until 1967, it was also the “people’s will” that interracial marriages be illegal and the institution of marriage seems to have withstood this “assault” on its foundation, as it has withstood divorce, adultery and in my case, a Catholic marrying a Jew.

3. The Supreme Court’s decision is being attacked as bench legislation by a liberal activist court. It is important to note (in light of California’s well-deserved reputation for being extremely liberal) that the Supreme Court is considered moderate, with Republican governors appointing six of its seven members.

4. Civil unions are a legal issue, which is where the state’s involvement should begin and end. Marriages should be performed and recognized by churches, synagogues, and mosques. If a religious institution does not want to acknowledge a relationship, then that is a private matter between that institution, the individuals and their God. However, when a state refuses to acknowledge a relationship, it is a public matter – and is indefensible.

5. I believe that a gay man can be just as good of a father as a straight man, but that he can’t be as good of a mother as a woman, which is why a man and a woman is the ideal partnership for raising children. However, the reality is that millions of children in this state are being raised in situations that are nowhere near ideal and suffer as a result. If two committed, loving adults want to commit their lives to raising a child, God – and the State of California - bless them.

6. I have yet to be shown how allowing same-sex marriage in any way diminishes my marriage, my family or my role as a father.

7. It is easy to say that I would have supported interracial marriage if I were old enough to have lived through the then-controversy. In years to come when the same-sex issue has faded to all but historical irrelevance, I want to be able to tell my grandchildren that I was there, publicly supporting those who needed the support. It will be the best way to know that if I had been in Birmingham in the ‘60s, I would have stood on the right side of the hoses.

8. If one of my children were gay, in love and wanted to get married, it would be impossible for me to look him or her in the eye and say I could not support the desire to be married. How can I possibly support a Constitutional amendment that would legally demand that I – or any parent – do that to their children?

Same-sex marriage is a difficult issue and when it is positioned as an attack on traditional marriage, religion, God and families, it is easy to see why so many are so involved. However, parallels in history and current trends all indicate that this issue will eventually be resolved, that marriage and religion will not be negatively impacted, and that once again we will find a balance between religious freedom and individual rights.

2008 is the 30-year anniversary of California defeating Proposition 6, the Briggs Amendment, which would have banned gays and lesbians from teaching in public schools. We were on the right side of history in 1978 and let’s hope we are wise and fair enough to be there again this year.

Thanks and Oh, Chuck...

Scott, thanks for your thoughtful comments on Prop 8. It's clear you've thought through the issue in a rational way, unlike people like Chuck who so quickly move to the ridiculous statement that allowing one gay human being to marry another gay human being could lead to people marrying dogs and/or trucks. It's worth looking closely at the arguments Christians who oppose gay marriage put forth (and it's good to note that many people of faith support gay marriage). Chuck suggests that allowing gay people to marry is wrong and will be forever. Yet, people like Chuck have made room in their beliefs for divorce, adultery, inter-faith marriages, and inter-racial marriages -- all things that were condemned at one time or another. Now, those things are just a fact of life. They would have us believe that their intentions are pure -- simply to protect the sanctity of marriage. It seems to me their opposition runs deeper and is tied to a basic prejudice against gay people (otherwise, they wouldn't compare gay marriages to people marrying inanimate objects). Hopefully, come November, even those who may not fully agree with gay marriage will see that using our state Constitution to take away others' rights, simply because we may disagree or disapprove, is not what this state is about.

Dogs and trucks

When will a man be allowed to marry his truck, or his dog? I have read of such desires, but do not understand them. People who have Judeo Christian religious beliefs are often offended by same sex marriage and those that do not understand this are being insensitive to our religious beliefs. In 1967, a public forum may have laughed at the suggestion of two men marrying just as you might laugh at me wanting to marry my dog. Is that the perspective that "proves" something here? The passage of time? Christians believe it is wrong. Not just now, or for 40 years, but always. It doesn't diminish anything and has nothing to do with that. How about my dog *and* my truck? Can we form a three-some? Maybe I can discontinue either my auto insurance or my medical. Seems like there must be some way around having both...

I hope that it is possible

I hope that it is possible to have a real debate, without unsulting each other. My marriage will not threaten your marriage. However, those who have entered into false marriages, just to make their family happy, often end in tragic divorce.

What's good for the goose

Mr. Harris, Respectfully, none of your arguments for defeating Proposition 8 addresses the issue of a court trampling over the will of the people. This decision sets a precedence which can have dire consequences for our citizens. Regards, Mike C.

marriage

If the court is able to reverse the vote of the people we have problems. 1) This issue should not have been able to be voted upon if it was not constitutional. 2) The will of the people must supercede the constitution and then changed to reflect the will of the people. Judges are then obligated to uphold the people's will. Most of those objecting to defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman have their agenda. Most of them would also support enviornmental issues, protection of nature, etc. You probably know where I am going with this, same sex marriage is not natural. I do not know of any species that is able to purpetuate their existance with same sex mating. There may be some lower forms that are equiped with both sexes, but I do not believe we can list humanity as a lower form of life. (Well maybe to some we do have low lifes, but that is another issue).



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